The Two Georges // Ohsawa & Gurdjieff

Similarities Between the Philosophies of George Ohsawa and George Gurdjieff

Notes Compiled by David Kerr - Page 1 of 2



George Ohsawa (G.O.) studied the system of Gurdjieff & Ouspensky (G \ O) and derived his 7 Levels of Judgement from their teachings. He altered their system and added to it and left out some of it's parts. For anyone interested in the psychological aspects of Ohsawa's teachings a comparative study of these systems is a must.

Gurdjieff devised it, Ouspensky developed it further and Ohsawa adapted it to his views on Philosophy, Medicine, Diet or Macrobiotics.

I first learned about the 7 levels of (G \ O) from "The Spaceman" Bill Lee who pitched for the Boston Red Sox, he is the most aware baseball player I have ever met so I taped our conversation that day in Winter Haven, Florida.

A few years later I was given, "Meetings with Remarkable Men" & "Views from the Real World" by Gurdjieff, and also three books by P.D.Ouspensky. "The Psychology of Mans Possible Evolution",1950,"In Search of the Miraculous",1949 & "A New Model of theUniverse",1930. I was very impressed andI realized how much Ohsawa got from their teachings.

They came up with the 7 levels before he wrote "The Unique Principle" or "The Order of the Universe" and these books do not mention the 7. In "Cancer and the Philosophy of the Far East", Ohsawa writes this. "Then examining the idea (s) of Materlinck, Ouspensky,Gurdjieff,Coue,Kinsey,Freud or Swedenborg," This shows that he had read their writings. So lets compare them. "The division of Man into 7 categories or 7 numbers explains thousands of things...The first tree categories are the ordinary mechanical humans.We are born into one of these three.Only by going to school can we enter the inner circle. Those of the outer circle are mechanical machines...Man is a machine and can know it...Know the machine to stop being a machine...The human machine has 7 differant functions," Gurdjieff & Ouspensky


"Ponder the 7 stages of Judgement and learn to which stage you belong... The first 4 stages are egocentric... All our behavior depends on judgement."
George Ohsawa

"Our understanding,consciousness and being is not always on the same level. It is always moving up and down."
(G & O)

The 7 Levels,Stages,Steps or Classes of the Categories, Functions & Judgement.



The 7 Functions & Categories of Man (G \ O)
OhsawaOuspensky
7. Supreme7. Super Cosmic Conscious
6.Ideological6.Objective / Higher Mental
5. Social5. Self / Higher Emotional
4. Intellectual4. Self Study School / Sexual
3. Sentimental3. Conceptual / Thinking
2.Sensory2. Emotional / Feeling
1. Mechanical1. Physical / Moving


The 7 Categories of Man

#7 Superman ?
#6 Objective Conscious Man.
#5 Self Conscious Man.
#4 Self Study School Man?
#3 Intellectual Man.
#2 Emotional Man.
#1 Physical Man.

#1 Physical Man has Mechanical #1 and Sensory #2 levels of Judgement.So, the 3rd level of Judgment belongs to the 2nd category of Man,the Emotional Man.etc. Ouspensky gives no name for Man #4 & Man #7 . I added these names and used his terms


There is 4 classes of the Instinctive Function.
1. Physiology.
2. Senses.
3. Physical Emotions pleasant or unpleasant sensations.
4. Reflexes.

They are also called inner work.

The Moving Function or outer work are all learned and require attention (e.g., walking).

Physical Man is limited to these two functions. Ohsawa calls them mechanical, instinctual or unconscious reflexes and sensory, conditional reflexes or techniques (e.g., dance & gymnastics).


Ohsawa's Sentimental or Emotional #3 J. & Intellectual or Conceptual #4 J. are obvious. These 4 Functions all have positive and also negative aspects. They are located in centers and each center is further divided into:
1.Mechanical
2.Emotional
3.Intellectual

So each center is divided into 6 parts. The sexual function is related to social level judgment and seeking esoteric schools. Knowing who you are and the Order of the Universe are the goals of Ideological Judgement. Supreme Judgment is for Superman & Superwoman.

Besides the 7 levels of Judgment G.O also mentions 7 levels, stages or steps of learning (love, profession, eating & drinking) in his Classification of The Origin of Man's Thoughts and Actions. Elsewhere he lists 7 levels of health ,medicine, speech & creation. In his levels of learning, he places science & art on the 4th step. Philosophy & religion he puts on the 6th. G & O say there is 7 levels of religion, science & art. They also list 7 planes of the cosmos.

Gurjjieff studied with Yogis and Sufis and he may have got his system from them. Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri in "The Holy Science" writes the 7 stages of creation and the 7 chakras. The Holy Bible has 7 spirits of God and 7 heavens etc.

Ouspensky was influenced by R.M.Bucke's book Cosmic Consciousness. So was Walter Russell. Ed Carpenter had used the term, it is another name for Supreme Judgment.

Man is a machine and can know it. The Human Machine has 7 different functions.

Know the machine to stop being a machine. Our understanding, consciousness & being is not always on the same level. It is always moving up or down. (G & O)


Man #1, #2 & #3, constitute mechanical humanity. They are still on the same level they were born on & haven’t been to school. Man #1 Physical, (Instinctive & moving functions ) , #2 Emotional (feeling function) and #3 Intellectual (thinking the 4th function).

Compare this to Ohsawa’s writings. "The first four stages of evolution are egocentric."

#1. Mechanical is Instinctual
#2. Sensory is Moving
#3. Sentimental is Emotional and
#4. Conceptual is Intellectual, or the thinking function.

All our behavior depends on judgment.


#1 Physical Man

#1 Level of Judgment. Physical, Mechanical, Simple, Blind. Physical reaction to heat & cold etc. a few hours after birth. ( P.G.) etc.

#1 Level of Learning & Knowledge. Instinctive or Unconscious Reflexes. No Understanding.

#1 Level of Love. Mikareu = Instinctual, appetite, hunger, thirst, no discretion. Sexual love, pleasure.

#1 Level of profession One who sells his life. Working slave, salaried employee, Laborer. #1 Level of Diet Guided only by thirst and hunger.

Those of the first step of judgment make chaotic noises when they express themselves. They understand nothing. (G.O.)

Instinctive Function = Inherent Inner Work. (A) All Physiology. e.g. Blood Circulation. (B) The 5 Senses. Hot & Cold, Dry & Wet. (C) Physical Emotions .Pleasant or Not. (D) Reflexes. Inner. Physical memories. Outer. e.g. Yawning etc.

Instinctive Center. 1.Mechanical Part. Habitual sensations Instinctive movements, all reflexes. 2. Emotional Part. Interest + Boredom -. 3. Intellectual Part. The mind behind the work of the organism. (G&O)


Sensorial Judgment Level #2

KNOWLEDGE & LEARNING Conditioned Reflexes, Techniques, Gymnastics, Dance.

LOVE Koi or Suki ,Physical or Physiological, Erotic, Seeking Comfort or Sensual Pleasure. Sensory Love or Sensuality, which seeks Satisfaction & Pleasure.

PROFESSION Wholesaler of Pleasure, e.g., Merchant, Actor, Novelist, Prostitute.

DIET Gourmand or Greedy Eater.

MEDICINE Preventative or Prophylactic.

HEALTH Good appetite for Food & Sex.

"A few days after birth the baby develops sensory perception such as light & dark hunger & sufferings, color, shape, taste, smell, sound, and temperature appear. They are divided into Yin & Yang." (P.G) "After some days the sensorial judgment begins to function and to perceive cold & warmth, the 2 poles of our relative world. It develops from day to day & gradually can distinguish all the degrees between the two extremes: colors, shapes, temperatures, agreeable and disagreeable tastes sympathy or hostility."(B.O.J) "Those of the 2nd step are shrill in their expression." (Jack & Mitie)

(Gurdjieff & Ouspensky)

THE MOVING FUNCTION Learned, Outer Work, Walking, Talking,

THE MOVING CENTER + Go, Move - Stop, Rest.

MECHANICAL PART Automatic, Instinctive, Imitation, Memory.

EMOTIONAL PART Pleasure of movement, sports, games.

INTELLECTUAL PART Invention of new methods of working, Impersonations.

CATEGORY # 1 PHYSICAL MAN The Instinctive & moving functions operate for Physical Man who learns like a parrot or monkey his knowledge is based on imitation & is learned by heart, crammed or drilled into the man .The being of Man #1 the man of the physical body is the being of a man living by his instincts & sensations


#3 Level, Stage, Step

SENTIMENTAL JUDGEMENT #3

"After 2 or 3 months the baby starts to show like & dislike, love & hate, fear & friendliness. (P.G.) "We reach the Affective Judgment. We discern what attracts us effectively & what frightens us or may harm us. (What is desirable or undesirable) "The third Class of people is made up of those who have gone through many painful years & have finally come to know sentimental happiness." (Jack & Mitie) "At the 3rd Step they are sad & disagreeable." (Jack & Mitie)

KNOWLEDGE & LEARNING (Intellectual) Literature, Theater & Arts. Knowledge of what you like or don't like. Healthy like pleasure, sick like pain.

LOVE (Emotional) Ai= Emotionally Universal, psychological Sentimental love, Romantic affection.

PROFESSION (Mechanical) Wholesaler of emotions.

DIET Way of Eating & Drinking. Gourmet or Connoisseur.

HEALTH Deep & Good Sleep. Only true dreams.

MEDICINE Art of Health ,The Way to acquire & maintain physical health


#3 Function & Center of Man

Feeling Function of the Emotional Center. (Joy, Hope, Faith, Love + or - Sorrow, Grief, Fear & Hate.)

Mechanical Part: Physical Cheep humor & comedy, pageantry, shows, excitement, being in, crowds, selfishness, sentimentality, envy, apprehension, coward, Lover of Sports.(Moving & Instinctual)

Emotional Part: Sentimental Feelings. Religious, aesthetic, moral humor, comedy, tragedy, ironic, sarcastic, derisive, jealous, obstinate, cruel, (No + or -)

Intellectual Part: Rational Thinking. Artistic creativity, dreams, self confidence.

The Sentimental level of Being Category #2 The Emotional Man The Man of Feeling is Man #2.

(Gurdjieff & Ouspensky)

Psychology of Mans Possible Evolution In Search of the Miraculous


#4 Class, Level, Stage, Step.

INTELLECTUAL JUDGEMENT "Around 5 years old children stare to show Conceptual Judgment this leads to knowledge, abstraction, & synthesis of concepts." (Practical Guide) "In the 4th stage, judgment develops in us the true conception of the two antagonistic categories: Good & Evil, Nice & Ugly, useful & useless, healthy food & poison, just & unjust." (Book of Judgment) "Eloquence accompanies the intellectuality of the 4th step." (J & M) "The 4th Class of people consists of those who have experienced years of very difficult struggle and have entered a life of intellectual tranquillity." (Jack & Mitie)

KNOWLEDGE & LEARNING: (Intellect) Science & Arts, Conceptual #4.

LOVE: (Emotional Feelings) Konomi,= Intellectual love, the minds attraction to study of the Arts & Sciences. Understanding, Systematic, Calculating, Scientific Expert, Knowledge & Research.

PROFESSION: (Mechanical Physical) One who sell Knowledge & Techniques.

EATING & DRINKING According to the theory of nutrition in fashion

HEALTH Good Memory the compass of our being. "He who is cured of the 4th level of judgment will great us with. I am free, I am not relieved of all my pains. I want to and must at any price, save my friends & neighbors who suffer as I once did> I must devote my life to this." (J & M).

MEDICINE

The Macrobiotic art of rejuvenation & longevity.

(GEORGES OHSAWA) ZEN MACROBIOTICS. THE BOOK OF JUDGEMENT. PRACTICAL GUIDE TO FAR EASTERN MACROBIOTIC MEDICINE. JACK & MITIE

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